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Hadith "حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ زَكَرِيَّا بْنِ أَبِي زَائِدَةَ، أَخْبَرَنَا مُجَالِدٌ، عَنْ عَامِرٍ، قَالَ حَمَلَتْ شُرَاحَةُ وَكَانَ زَوْجُهَا غَائِبًا فَانْطَلَقَ بِهَا مَوْلَاهَا إِلَى عَلِيٍّ فَقَالَ لَهَا عَلِيٌّ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ لَعَلَّ زَوْجَكِ…

This is an example of a passage that was lost: The verse of stoning was revealed but those who used to read it and other verses of the Quran died in al-Yamamah.

This begs several questions:

* Do Muslims thank Allah for the loss of these passages from the Qur'an?

* What benefit is it to have the text preserved on the eternal tables if you as a Muslim can't read and recite it? Didn't you get special Barakah if you recite the Qur'an? How about when you only know what remains of it after so much is lost?

* How does the loss align with the claim of Muslims that Allah said that he would protect the Qur'an? According to Muslims, Allah allowed humans to corrupt the precious scriptures but would protect the Qur'an miraculously. I'd say that Allah already didn't have a good track record, letting the books and revelations of 124000 previous prophets get lost. I'd say what were the expectations in the case of this 124001? Or if you want to focus on the actual mentioned 5 writings in the Qur'an: Book of Abraham, Torah (book of Moses), Zabur (book of David), Injeel (book of Jesus), and Qur'an. But even in that case: according to Muslims, 4 out of the 5 have been corrupted, by man. Why would we believe that Allah would be able to prevent man from corrupting the Qur'an?

* According to some Muslims, the protection was via mass memorization. Apparently this didn't work either. And if you say "this hadith is da'if", remember that we have the fact that the call to compile the Qur'an into writing and standardize it was done for 2 reasons: 1) to prevent dispute about the different variants 2) they FEARED that the Qur'an would be lost. So even in the time of Uthman they realized that memorization was risky. How many ahadith aren't there that warn Muslims and tell of surahs and ayahs being forgotten because the hardened their hearts?

Like it says in Q2:106: "If We ever abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten, We replace it with a better or similar one". This means that NOTHING is better than this lost passage.

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This is an example of a passage that was lost: The verse of stoning was revealed but those who used to read it and other verses of the Quran died in al-Yamamah.

This begs several questions:

* Do Muslims thank Allah for the loss of these passages from the Qur'an?

* What benefit is it to have the text preserved on the eternal tables if you as a Muslim can't read and recite it? Didn't you get special Barakah if you recite the Qur'an? How about when you only know what remains of it after so much is lost?

* How does the loss align with the claim of Muslims that Allah said that he would protect the Qur'an? According to Muslims, Allah allowed humans to corrupt the precious scriptures but would protect the Qur'an miraculously. I'd say that Allah already didn't have a good track record, letting the books and revelations of 124000 previous prophets get lost. I'd say what were the expectations in the case of this 124001? Or if you want to focus on the actual mentioned 5 writings in the Qur'an: Book of Abraham, Torah (book of Moses), Zabur (book of David), Injeel (book of Jesus), and Qur'an. But even in that case: according to Muslims, 4 out of the 5 have been corrupted, by man. Why would we believe that Allah would be able to prevent man from corrupting the Qur'an?

* According to some Muslims, the protection was via mass memorization. Apparently this didn't work either. And if you say "this hadith is da'if", remember that we have the fact that the call to compile the Qur'an into writing and standardize it was done for 2 reasons: 1) to prevent dispute about the different variants 2) they FEARED that the Qur'an would be lost. So even in the time of Uthman they realized that memorization was risky. How many ahadith aren't there that warn Muslims and tell of surahs and ayahs being forgotten because the hardened their hearts?

Like it says in Q2:106: "If We ever abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten, We replace it with a better or similar one". This means that NOTHING is better than this lost passage.

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