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Jason Reza Jorjani: "... the so-called "UFO (or UAP) Disclosure" discussion, which has long since also become a broader conversation about the paranormal in general because it is clear to anyone involved, in a more than superficial survey of the subject, that psychic phenomena and other aspects of the occult cannot be exorcised from the mass of "UAP" data going back many decades. In a manner that can often be irksome, some of the researchers involved have resorted to simply referring to the whole mess as "the phenomenon"."



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Jason Reza Jorjani: "... the so-called "UFO (or UAP) Disclosure" discussion, which has long since also become a broader conversation about the paranormal in general because it is clear to anyone involved, in a more than superficial survey of the subject, that psychic phenomena and other aspects of the occult cannot be exorcised from the mass of "UAP" data going back many decades. In a manner that can often be irksome, some of the researchers involved have resorted to simply referring to the whole mess as "the phenomenon"."

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