Daniel Haqiqatjou Official

The best response these Wahhabis have given so far is "hurr but the Asharis takfired Ahl al-Hadith too durrr."

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I cited exactly this back and forth takfiring in my fiqh of takfir debate. The point I made was that takfir is an easy weapon. For every single scholar and every single group, you can find another scholar who has made takfir of them. So what? If we go by that standard, there is no one who remains a Muslim!

That's exactly why the great scholars like al-Ghazali and Ibn Taymiyya, Allah have mercy on them, had the genius to step back and say, this constant civil war has to stop. We need principles for takfir, not just "imam fulan in the 3rd century takfired Abu Hanifa, therefore he's a kafir." They laid out these principles and set a very high bar. They said, we need to have more tolerance and widen the circle.

These are the things I cite and base my positions on. The Wahhabis, however, do not want to widen the circle. They want to cut out Asharis, Maturidis, and all non-Salafi Wahhabis. So they adopt a hard takfir or hard tabdi stance and wield it like a sword against me and others. But they are not consistent with their hard takfir stance and when you call them out on it, they do taqiyya.

Like I said, grift is over.

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The best response these Wahhabis have given so far is "hurr but the Asharis takfired Ahl al-Hadith too durrr."

WOWW BREAKING NEWS GUYS

I cited exactly this back and forth takfiring in my fiqh of takfir debate. The point I made was that takfir is an easy weapon. For every single scholar and every single group, you can find another scholar who has made takfir of them. So what? If we go by that standard, there is no one who remains a Muslim!

That's exactly why the great scholars like al-Ghazali and Ibn Taymiyya, Allah have mercy on them, had the genius to step back and say, this constant civil war has to stop. We need principles for takfir, not just "imam fulan in the 3rd century takfired Abu Hanifa, therefore he's a kafir." They laid out these principles and set a very high bar. They said, we need to have more tolerance and widen the circle.

These are the things I cite and base my positions on. The Wahhabis, however, do not want to widen the circle. They want to cut out Asharis, Maturidis, and all non-Salafi Wahhabis. So they adopt a hard takfir or hard tabdi stance and wield it like a sword against me and others. But they are not consistent with their hard takfir stance and when you call them out on it, they do taqiyya.

Like I said, grift is over.

BY Daniel Haqiqatjou Official