Forwarded from Survive the Jive: All-feed
“Odin is no more an argr god than is Thor, which is to say that he is no argr god at all. He is likely not even a continual seid-user. We are all studying the same source material so, feel free to ask yourself: outside of the Rind/Samsø episode, how often have you seen the myths associating Odin with seid or ergi?”
https://norsemythology.substack.com/p/odin-is-not-an-unmanly-god
https://norsemythology.substack.com/p/odin-is-not-an-unmanly-god
Norse Mythology & Germanic Lore
Odin Is Not an Unmanly God
On the overblown association between Odin, seid, and ergi
Forwarded from Þórr siðr
Some additional points:
The other instances of prophecy (the primary practice associated with seiðr), Oðinn is not the one prophesying. In Baldrs draumar, he raised up a dead witch in the underworld to tell him what he needed to know.
The instances of prophecy as mentioned in Ynglinga saga 7 are of an euhemerized version of him, and therefore should be looked at with some scrutiny. The saga gives a specific overview of what these different practices and types of magic are, but his association is primarily with galdr, shapeshifting, weather/element manipulation, battle-sorcery, herb-magic, and knowing the language of birds. Some of the practices such as shapeshifting are reminiscent of the Sámi Noadi practices. They are also said to be able to send out their spirit in the forms of animals while their bodies are sleeping.
In the instance of his impregnation of Rindr, Sigurðardrápa denotes this was accomplished by seiðr (seið Yggr til Rindar), but in Grógaldr it is denoted as galdr (þann gól Rindi Rani).
The accusation of the Samsø episode in Lokasenna in my view is really just that, an accusation, which is the premise of the senna style poetic form. Óðinn here is said to have used a drum like völva. He was said to have vitka líki fórtu verþjóð yfir, or have fared in the likeness of a warlock over men. The term vitka used has a connotation of controlling the senses, such as in vitkask, which refers to the recovering of one’s senses, or recovering from being in a swoon. The term vitka is associated with Finns (finnvitka, meaning to bewitch like a Finn), as they (or their mixed descendants) are typically the purveyors of sorcery in the sagas. In this lost story, it’s likely that Óðinn had used sorcery to control the senses of the men on Samsø.
My personal view on the matter is that Óðinn being a god, is not subject to the moralities of men. When in preparation for the Ragnarok, he must do what must be done and use every potential resource possible.
The other instances of prophecy (the primary practice associated with seiðr), Oðinn is not the one prophesying. In Baldrs draumar, he raised up a dead witch in the underworld to tell him what he needed to know.
The instances of prophecy as mentioned in Ynglinga saga 7 are of an euhemerized version of him, and therefore should be looked at with some scrutiny. The saga gives a specific overview of what these different practices and types of magic are, but his association is primarily with galdr, shapeshifting, weather/element manipulation, battle-sorcery, herb-magic, and knowing the language of birds. Some of the practices such as shapeshifting are reminiscent of the Sámi Noadi practices. They are also said to be able to send out their spirit in the forms of animals while their bodies are sleeping.
In the instance of his impregnation of Rindr, Sigurðardrápa denotes this was accomplished by seiðr (seið Yggr til Rindar), but in Grógaldr it is denoted as galdr (þann gól Rindi Rani).
The accusation of the Samsø episode in Lokasenna in my view is really just that, an accusation, which is the premise of the senna style poetic form. Óðinn here is said to have used a drum like völva. He was said to have vitka líki fórtu verþjóð yfir, or have fared in the likeness of a warlock over men. The term vitka used has a connotation of controlling the senses, such as in vitkask, which refers to the recovering of one’s senses, or recovering from being in a swoon. The term vitka is associated with Finns (finnvitka, meaning to bewitch like a Finn), as they (or their mixed descendants) are typically the purveyors of sorcery in the sagas. In this lost story, it’s likely that Óðinn had used sorcery to control the senses of the men on Samsø.
My personal view on the matter is that Óðinn being a god, is not subject to the moralities of men. When in preparation for the Ragnarok, he must do what must be done and use every potential resource possible.
Forwarded from Þórr siðr
This Yuletide has been one of note up on Thor’s Hill.
On Christmas night, we had 50mph winds which raged through the hillside in our town, which knocked down one of the tivered pines in the holy grove. Þórr chose this tree in particular for his likeness.
I felled what remained of the tree and shaped it. This morning, I dug a pit for the pillar and within it I placed the dirt I collected from Helgafell, a stone from Þórsá, and an ancient thunderstone from Sweden that I had buried underneath the old pillar at our former holystead.
On the Yule Moon, we are offering up another goat to sanctify his likeness.
Heill Véurr ok Véþormr!
On Christmas night, we had 50mph winds which raged through the hillside in our town, which knocked down one of the tivered pines in the holy grove. Þórr chose this tree in particular for his likeness.
I felled what remained of the tree and shaped it. This morning, I dug a pit for the pillar and within it I placed the dirt I collected from Helgafell, a stone from Þórsá, and an ancient thunderstone from Sweden that I had buried underneath the old pillar at our former holystead.
On the Yule Moon, we are offering up another goat to sanctify his likeness.
Heill Véurr ok Véþormr!
Forwarded from Germanic Paganism
Aptrganga
after-walker or again-walker
The undead in Norse belief. A blue skin tone is described on these creatures, which is commonly accepted as being a description for resembling a decomposing corpse. Some academics equate the aptrganga to being the same creature as the draugr/draug.
“he was dead, and as blue as Hel, and as great as a neat (ox/cow)”
- Grettir’s saga
after-walker or again-walker
The undead in Norse belief. A blue skin tone is described on these creatures, which is commonly accepted as being a description for resembling a decomposing corpse. Some academics equate the aptrganga to being the same creature as the draugr/draug.
“he was dead, and as blue as Hel, and as great as a neat (ox/cow)”
- Grettir’s saga
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For this Yule season we present to you the harrowing Bergbúa þáttr (Tale of the Mountain Dweller). A 13th century account of two men and their encounter with a jötunn in Iceland. The being recites to these men a poem which some scholars say may be a warning of the impending disaster Ragnarök.
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Written and narrated by Þórr Siðr
Music by Glenn Bokay
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Written and narrated by Þórr Siðr
Music by Glenn Bokay
Forwarded from Þórr siðr
It is profane to offer meat to the Gods that has been slaughtered and blessed under the Kosher and Halal laws, as these are ritual slaughtering methods which include prayers to dedicate the animal to a foreign god.
If you are going to offer meat, find a farm that does it without such methods — or raise it and slaughter it yourself.
If you are going to offer meat, find a farm that does it without such methods — or raise it and slaughter it yourself.