Hadith
وَحَدَّثَنَا خَلَفُ بْنُ هِشَامٍ، حَدَّثَنَا مَالِكُ بْنُ أَنَسٍ، ح وَحَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ يَحْيَى، - وَاللَّفْظُ لَهُ - قَالَ قَرَأْتُ عَلَى مَالِكٍ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ نَوْفَلٍ عَنْ عُرْوَةَ عَنْ عَائِشَةَ عَنْ جُدَامَةَ بِنْتِ وَهْبٍ الأَسَدِيَّةِ أَنَّهَا سَمِعَتْ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَقُولُ " لَقَدْ هَمَمْتُ أَنْ أَنْهَى عَنِ الْغِيلَةِ حَتَّى ذَكَرْتُ أَنَّ الرُّومَ وَفَارِسَ يَصْنَعُونَ ذَلِكَ فَلاَ يَضُرُّ أَوْلاَدَهُمْ " . قَالَ مُسْلِمٌ وَأَمَّا خَلَفٌ فَقَالَ عَنْ جُذَامَةَ الأَسَدِيَّةِ . وَالصَّحِيحُ مَا قَالَهُ يَحْيَى بِالدَّالِ .
Judaima daughter of Wahb al-Asadiyya (Allah be pleased with her) reported that she heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) assaying:
I intended to prohibit cohabitation with a suckling woman until I considered that the Romans and the Persians do it without any injury being caused to their children thereby. (Imam Muslim said: Khalaf reported it from Judamat al-'Asadiyya, but the correct wording is what has been stated by Yahya.)
Sahih
Sahih Muslim, 1442 a
In-Book Reference: Book 16, Hadith 166
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 8, Hadith 3391 (deprecated numbering scheme)
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وَحَدَّثَنَا خَلَفُ بْنُ هِشَامٍ، حَدَّثَنَا مَالِكُ بْنُ أَنَسٍ، ح وَحَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ يَحْيَى، - وَاللَّفْظُ لَهُ - قَالَ قَرَأْتُ عَلَى مَالِكٍ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ نَوْفَلٍ عَنْ عُرْوَةَ عَنْ عَائِشَةَ عَنْ جُدَامَةَ بِنْتِ وَهْبٍ الأَسَدِيَّةِ أَنَّهَا سَمِعَتْ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَقُولُ " لَقَدْ هَمَمْتُ أَنْ أَنْهَى عَنِ الْغِيلَةِ حَتَّى ذَكَرْتُ أَنَّ الرُّومَ وَفَارِسَ يَصْنَعُونَ ذَلِكَ فَلاَ يَضُرُّ أَوْلاَدَهُمْ " . قَالَ مُسْلِمٌ وَأَمَّا خَلَفٌ فَقَالَ عَنْ جُذَامَةَ الأَسَدِيَّةِ . وَالصَّحِيحُ مَا قَالَهُ يَحْيَى بِالدَّالِ .
Judaima daughter of Wahb al-Asadiyya (Allah be pleased with her) reported that she heard Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) assaying:
I intended to prohibit cohabitation with a suckling woman until I considered that the Romans and the Persians do it without any injury being caused to their children thereby. (Imam Muslim said: Khalaf reported it from Judamat al-'Asadiyya, but the correct wording is what has been stated by Yahya.)
Sahih
Sahih Muslim, 1442 a
In-Book Reference: Book 16, Hadith 166
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 8, Hadith 3391 (deprecated numbering scheme)
Man-made religion.
Forwarded from Answering Islam
"Many (of the passages) of the Qur’an that were sent down were known by those who died on the day of Yamama . . . but they were not known (by those who) survived them, nor were they written down, nor had Abu Bakr, Umar or Uthman (by that time) collected the Qur’an, nor were they found with even one (person) after them"
- Abu Dawood, Kitab al-Masahif.
- Abu Dawood, Kitab al-Masahif.
Answering Islam
"Many (of the passages) of the Qur’an that were sent down were known by those who died on the day of Yamama . . . but they were not known (by those who) survived them, nor were they written down, nor had Abu Bakr, Umar or Uthman (by that time) collected the…
This is evidence that some text was lost after Muhammad died.
Hadith
"حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ زَكَرِيَّا بْنِ أَبِي زَائِدَةَ، أَخْبَرَنَا مُجَالِدٌ، عَنْ عَامِرٍ، قَالَ حَمَلَتْ شُرَاحَةُ وَكَانَ زَوْجُهَا غَائِبًا فَانْطَلَقَ بِهَا مَوْلَاهَا إِلَى عَلِيٍّ فَقَالَ لَهَا عَلِيٌّ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ لَعَلَّ زَوْجَكِ جَاءَكِ أَوْ لَعَلَّ أَحَدًا اسْتَكْرَهَكِ عَلَى نَفْسِكِ قَالَتْ لَا وَأَقَرَّتْ بِالزِّنَا فَجَلَدَهَا عَلِيٌّ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ يَوْمَ الْخَمِيسِ أَنَا شَاهِدُهُ وَرَجَمَهَا يَوْمَ الْجُمُعَةِ وَأَنَا شَاهِدُهُ فَأَمَرَ بِهَا فَحُفِرَ لَهَا إِلَى السُّرَّةِ ثُمَّ قَالَ إِنَّ الرَّجْمَ سُنَّةٌ مِنْ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ وَقَدْ كَانَتْ نَزَلَتْ آيَةُ الرَّجْمِ فَهَلَكَ مَنْ كَانَ يَقْرَؤُهَا وَآيًا مِنْ الْقُرْآنِ بِالْيَمَامَةِ."
It was narrated that ‘Amir said:
Shurahah became pregnant and her husband was absent. Her former master took her to ‘Ali, and ‘Ali (رضي الله عنه) said to her: Perhaps your husband came to you or perhaps someone forced you against your will? She said: No. And she admitted zina. So Ali (رضي الله عنه) flogged her on Thursday and I was present, and he stoned her on Friday and I was present. He ordered that a hole be dug for her up to her navel, then he said: Stoning is the way of the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ). The verse of stoning was revealed but those who used to read it and other verses of the Quran died in al-Yamamah.
Da'if (Darussalam) because of the weakness of Mujalid] (Darussalam)
Musnad Ahmad, 1210
In-Book Reference: Book 5, Hadith 618
"حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ زَكَرِيَّا بْنِ أَبِي زَائِدَةَ، أَخْبَرَنَا مُجَالِدٌ، عَنْ عَامِرٍ، قَالَ حَمَلَتْ شُرَاحَةُ وَكَانَ زَوْجُهَا غَائِبًا فَانْطَلَقَ بِهَا مَوْلَاهَا إِلَى عَلِيٍّ فَقَالَ لَهَا عَلِيٌّ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ لَعَلَّ زَوْجَكِ جَاءَكِ أَوْ لَعَلَّ أَحَدًا اسْتَكْرَهَكِ عَلَى نَفْسِكِ قَالَتْ لَا وَأَقَرَّتْ بِالزِّنَا فَجَلَدَهَا عَلِيٌّ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ يَوْمَ الْخَمِيسِ أَنَا شَاهِدُهُ وَرَجَمَهَا يَوْمَ الْجُمُعَةِ وَأَنَا شَاهِدُهُ فَأَمَرَ بِهَا فَحُفِرَ لَهَا إِلَى السُّرَّةِ ثُمَّ قَالَ إِنَّ الرَّجْمَ سُنَّةٌ مِنْ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ وَقَدْ كَانَتْ نَزَلَتْ آيَةُ الرَّجْمِ فَهَلَكَ مَنْ كَانَ يَقْرَؤُهَا وَآيًا مِنْ الْقُرْآنِ بِالْيَمَامَةِ."
It was narrated that ‘Amir said:
Shurahah became pregnant and her husband was absent. Her former master took her to ‘Ali, and ‘Ali (رضي الله عنه) said to her: Perhaps your husband came to you or perhaps someone forced you against your will? She said: No. And she admitted zina. So Ali (رضي الله عنه) flogged her on Thursday and I was present, and he stoned her on Friday and I was present. He ordered that a hole be dug for her up to her navel, then he said: Stoning is the way of the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ). The verse of stoning was revealed but those who used to read it and other verses of the Quran died in al-Yamamah.
Da'if (Darussalam) because of the weakness of Mujalid] (Darussalam)
Musnad Ahmad, 1210
In-Book Reference: Book 5, Hadith 618
Answering Islam
Hadith "حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ زَكَرِيَّا بْنِ أَبِي زَائِدَةَ، أَخْبَرَنَا مُجَالِدٌ، عَنْ عَامِرٍ، قَالَ حَمَلَتْ شُرَاحَةُ وَكَانَ زَوْجُهَا غَائِبًا فَانْطَلَقَ بِهَا مَوْلَاهَا إِلَى عَلِيٍّ فَقَالَ لَهَا عَلِيٌّ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ لَعَلَّ زَوْجَكِ…
This is an example of a passage that was lost: The verse of stoning was revealed but those who used to read it and other verses of the Quran died in al-Yamamah.
This begs several questions:
* Do Muslims thank Allah for the loss of these passages from the Qur'an?
* What benefit is it to have the text preserved on the eternal tables if you as a Muslim can't read and recite it? Didn't you get special Barakah if you recite the Qur'an? How about when you only know what remains of it after so much is lost?
* How does the loss align with the claim of Muslims that Allah said that he would protect the Qur'an? According to Muslims, Allah allowed humans to corrupt the precious scriptures but would protect the Qur'an miraculously. I'd say that Allah already didn't have a good track record, letting the books and revelations of 124000 previous prophets get lost. I'd say what were the expectations in the case of this 124001? Or if you want to focus on the actual mentioned 5 writings in the Qur'an: Book of Abraham, Torah (book of Moses), Zabur (book of David), Injeel (book of Jesus), and Qur'an. But even in that case: according to Muslims, 4 out of the 5 have been corrupted, by man. Why would we believe that Allah would be able to prevent man from corrupting the Qur'an?
* According to some Muslims, the protection was via mass memorization. Apparently this didn't work either. And if you say "this hadith is da'if", remember that we have the fact that the call to compile the Qur'an into writing and standardize it was done for 2 reasons: 1) to prevent dispute about the different variants 2) they FEARED that the Qur'an would be lost. So even in the time of Uthman they realized that memorization was risky. How many ahadith aren't there that warn Muslims and tell of surahs and ayahs being forgotten because the hardened their hearts?
Like it says in Q2:106: "If We ever abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten, We replace it with a better or similar one". This means that NOTHING is better than this lost passage.
This begs several questions:
* Do Muslims thank Allah for the loss of these passages from the Qur'an?
* What benefit is it to have the text preserved on the eternal tables if you as a Muslim can't read and recite it? Didn't you get special Barakah if you recite the Qur'an? How about when you only know what remains of it after so much is lost?
* How does the loss align with the claim of Muslims that Allah said that he would protect the Qur'an? According to Muslims, Allah allowed humans to corrupt the precious scriptures but would protect the Qur'an miraculously. I'd say that Allah already didn't have a good track record, letting the books and revelations of 124000 previous prophets get lost. I'd say what were the expectations in the case of this 124001? Or if you want to focus on the actual mentioned 5 writings in the Qur'an: Book of Abraham, Torah (book of Moses), Zabur (book of David), Injeel (book of Jesus), and Qur'an. But even in that case: according to Muslims, 4 out of the 5 have been corrupted, by man. Why would we believe that Allah would be able to prevent man from corrupting the Qur'an?
* According to some Muslims, the protection was via mass memorization. Apparently this didn't work either. And if you say "this hadith is da'if", remember that we have the fact that the call to compile the Qur'an into writing and standardize it was done for 2 reasons: 1) to prevent dispute about the different variants 2) they FEARED that the Qur'an would be lost. So even in the time of Uthman they realized that memorization was risky. How many ahadith aren't there that warn Muslims and tell of surahs and ayahs being forgotten because the hardened their hearts?
Like it says in Q2:106: "If We ever abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten, We replace it with a better or similar one". This means that NOTHING is better than this lost passage.
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